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Uh Duh
05-28-2009, 06:05 PM
It was a disaster. Turnout dropped 83%
It may save money, but it would appear The People don't trust it.
From KITV.com:

Voting Drops 83 Percent In All-Digital Election
People Could Vote Online, On Phone For Neighborhood Board

Officials saw an 83 percent drop in the number of voters participating in the Honolulu Neighborhood Board's recent election that is the nation's first all-digital election, where people could vote over the Internet or by phone.

For the first time, Oahu voters had to use computers or the telephone to vote for their neighborhood board candidates and many people did not bother.

About 7,300 people voted this year, compared to 44,000 people who voted in the last neighborhood board race in 2007.

"That is of great concern to me. It is disappointing, compared to two years ago," said Joan Manke of the city Neighborhood Commission.

Manke heads the commission that oversaw Internet voting. She said voters obviously did not know about or did not embrace the change to high-tech voting.

"This is the first time there is no paper ballot to speak of. So again, this is a huge change and I know that, and given the budget, this is a best that we could do," Manke said.

The city cut its expenses in half by using computers and phone technology by Everyone Counts. It cost about $95,000.

The question is whether the state and the counties will use the new voting technology to reach out to overseas voters, people who are not able to walk into voting booths like these to vote.

"This is the future for presidential elections, general elections, primary elections, all the way," Everyone Counts consultant Bob Watada said.

Watada is the former Campaign Spending Commission director.

Great spin.
"(It) gives access to a lot of people who haven't had the access, and you don't have the hanging chads, you don't have the miscounted absentee ballots, you don't have the ballots lost," he said.

So how do you make it work? Of course spend more money.
More public education is needed to assure voters, who are used to going into voting booths that online voting is safe and easy, Watada said. However, that costs money, which is difficult to get in these tight budget times.

We need to think long and hard before we go this route. People must trust the system and in the case of electronic voting I don't think they do.

jbm32206
05-28-2009, 06:16 PM
I think it's a great idea, and I wouldn't mind being able to vote that way...but of course, one would have concerns about it. People will remember that high security systems had been breached, hackers and potential for identity theft....and so on...Educating people would be a must, and it would have to also be able to answer any questions about security.

Ralph W
05-28-2009, 06:51 PM
How could they not know about or not embrace the change to high-tech voting? I mean, look at the participation with "Dancing With the Stars" or "America's Got Talent". People are just becoming more complacent or lazy or don't really believe their vote makes a difference in the political arena. It's not entertaining enough.

Another thought: Perhaps you can't teach an old dog new tricks. My wife would go stand in line to vote but would not do it on-line because she can't fully operate a computer (the phone is a different matter)<G> I have elderly neighbors who vote but don't own computers or cell phones and still have difficulty coping with a standard phone. Anything other than hello and goodbye would be beyond them, even with repeated training. **Disclaimer** My wife is NOT an old dog!!

This will take some time. The under 30? crowd is most likely to be clued in to the electronic world and as the population adjusts (old people die) will be the only way to fully realize the cyber potentials.

Uh Duh
05-28-2009, 07:06 PM
Typically, the older the voter the more likely they are to vote. Atypical for those over 70, computer literacy, blackberrys, Twitter, Face Book, My Space. Thus an electronic election had low turnout. An unintended consequence.

It is not that I don't think its a good idea. What amazes me is those in charge of the elections in Honolulu went ahead with this system without realizing exactly what Ralph W stated: "Another thought: Perhaps you can't teach an old dog new tricks. My wife would go stand in line to vote but would not do it on-line because she can't fully operate a computer (the phone is a different matter)<G> I have elderly neighbors who vote but don't own computers or cell phones and still have difficulty coping with a standard phone. Anything other than hello and goodbye would be beyond them, even with repeated training. This will take some time. "

Through technology they disenfranchised the older voter.